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If only we had gotten xulrunner... - Jeremy's Thoughts
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Jeremy Katz
Date: 2007-10-24 00:07
Subject: If only we had gotten xulrunner...
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Then I would not have had to spend a good chunk of time this evening queuing up and babysitting rebuilds for the firefox 2.0.0.8 update which was built earlier today. I think I got at least most of them done, though, so rawhide tomorrow should be okay dependency-wise unless I missed one.

There's always next time for xulrunner, though...
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Peter Gordon
User: codergeek42
Date: 2007-10-24 05:38 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
As a long time fan of Epiphany and maintainer of some Gecko-using packages in Fedora [1], I'd really love to see XULrunner as the default GRE for Fedora's builds. I truly hope to see this for F9+. :)


[1] Thanks for bumping/rebuilding these, btw. :)
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User: kevin_kofler
Date: 2007-10-24 05:47 (UTC)
Subject: Will xulrunner really solve this?
Doesn't xulrunner have the same ABI problems with security updates? I think the real solution would be to use a HTML library which actually cares about being used as a library, such as KHTML or WebKit, Mozilla's stubborn refusal to keep a stable ABI for Gecko is what's causing this pain.
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Jeremy Katz
User: katzj
Date: 2007-10-24 13:55 (UTC)
Subject: Re: Will xulrunner really solve this?
Not really. As it turns out, the actual ABI has remained pretty constant for a while. The thing that breaks is that the libraries move with every update. And this is largely because upstream doesn't want people linking with firefox (this is also why there's not a firefox-libs subpackage). So it should be effective
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User: suetemyp
Date: 2008-07-16 00:32 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Sorry this discussion has turned out to be about Linux and not Vista which is what Joe is writting about.
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User: zart
Date: 2007-10-24 07:44 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
And what about SeaMonkey?
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Jeremy Katz
User: katzj
Date: 2007-10-24 13:55 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
I'm not sure if there was an updated seamonkey release done or if it was firefox-only problems.
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User: kymigosu
Date: 2008-07-11 01:23 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
(I'm not sure yet if it's a psychiatric problem, a vanity problem, a talibanic problem, or just plain stupidity.
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User: kevin_kofler
Date: 2007-10-24 15:39 (UTC)
Subject: SeaMonkey
Does this answer your question? ;-)
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2007-October/msg00285.html

I have also seen an F8 build sitting in the update queue, and the FE6 build has also been updated recently.
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